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Planning for Graduate

School and

the Physics GRE

April 2011

Peter Persans

Grad school or employment?

• Assess your interests, strengths, weaknesses this summer. • Identify career fields that interest you. (Talk to friends. Talk to faculty. Go to career fairs. See a career counselor.)

Select courses and research for your senior year

• Grad school if you have a compelling reason. • Employment is a good way to start your life after college.

Select

courses and research for your senior year that help you develop a resume and knowledge in your interest area.

Does graduate school make sense

for you? • Why do you want to go to graduate school? - Good reasons: • You are enthusiastic about some field or career and graduate school is the path to that career. • You want to understand the world at a deeper level. - Bad reasons: • You are good at academics. • You are scared of going out into the world and this is a way to put it off.

Graduate school process - timing

• Have a good undergraduate record - academics + research experience or other serious responsibilities • This Summer - investigate schools and prepare for PGRE• Nov-Jan 1 application deadlines for Sept entry - Letters of recommendation from 3 faculty - Physics GRE (for Physics/Astro) in Oct or Nov- General GRE (important for other fields than

Physics) in early autumn

• Their offers to you by ~March 15 • Your response to them by April 15

Fields other than Physics

• About 1/3 of our majors go to graduate school in fields other than Physics or Astronomy. - Geophysics, Materials, Earth Science,

Meteorology,Oceanography, Computer Science,

Mathematics

Aero

Mech E

EE O p tical ,, ,,p

Sciences

- Law, Seminary, Economics, Psychology,

Philosophy, Architecture

• Application emphasis will be different. - In many engineering fields, there are few TA's, so you must contact faculty in the program to secure a Research Assistantship

Preparation

• In order to be competitive for programs other than Physics, you should demonstrate interest and capability in that field through:that field through: - Junior/Senior level coursework in that field - Research or development participation - Strong letters of support

Getting information on grad departments

• Your faculty • Rankings: www.phds.org , National

Research Council, USNWR(?)

• AIP Graduate Programs in Physics and

A (d ildif i iA

stronomy (d eta il e d i n f ormat i on i n standard format) • Department Web sites • Investigate faculty activity using Web of

Science citation reports

Tests you need for grad school

•For Physics and Astronomy graduate programs you need the Physics

Subject GRE

and the general GRE.

For Materials Mech E EE Applied

For

Materials

Mech E EE

Applied

Physics, Optics, Math, Biophysics,

Geophysics you only need the general

GRE.

The General GRE

• A lot like the SAT, but with a higher verbal standard. • Very elementary math that you may have lost touch with doing well is have lost touch with doing well is important for engineering grad students - practice for this. • A writing exam

Why do you need the

Physics GRE?

• Admission to most well regarded graduate programs in Physics and

Astronomy requires it.•

The Physics GRE weighs heavily for

The

Physics

GRE weighs heavily for most schools - especially if you are not from a large or well-known undergraduate program

Important acceptance considerations

• GPA: - below 3.6 hinders acceptance into top-ranked programs • Physics GRE: - below 800 hinders acceptance to top-ranked programs - below 600 hinders acceptance into well-regarded programs. • General GRE: - Not an important admissions factor for most Physics programs for which Physics GRE is expected. Some schools require it and minimum requirements must be met. - Elite programs use them to distinguish between applicants with near perfect

PGRE's. and 4.0 GPA's.

• Research: - Notable research with good letters and a publication or meeting presentation helps significantly • Letters of recommendation - Good letters from faculty/researchers who have a track record helps significantly. • Knowing/contacting people at the target institution can help.

Are you competitive?

• For top ranked programs : GPA>3.7,

PGRE>800, + Notable research and very

strong letters • For well-regarded program : GPA>3.5,

PGRE>700 +research and strong lettersPGRE>700

+research and strong letters - Admission committee will actually read your transcript and letters • If your GPA is lower, you need great letters and a good story. PGRE usually cannot save an otherwise poor record.

Examples of the ranking

of graduate Physics programs • "Top ten" examples - #1 [Harvard, Princeton, Cal Tech, , UC Berkeley],

Stanford, MIT, Cornell, Illinois, UCSB, Chicago

• "Next ten" exam p les p - U Penn, Yale, Wisconsin, Michigan, UCLA, U

Washington, UCSD, UT Austin, Columbia,

Maryland, Stony Brook

• ~30 -

Northwestern, Carnegie Mellon, Brown,

Rochester, NYU, U Minnesota

A chart from physicsgre.com

• Physics GRE score (>700) is necessary but not sufficient for admission to well-regarded program. (>750 for top ten.) • Physics GRE below 600 seriously decreases chances of getting into a well-regarded program.

Best graduate program ranking vs PGRE

(RPI students - Physics grad programs only) 520
PGRE

507090110

ank acceptance

100=no acceptance

(RPI = 55) • Scatter means that PGRE is not everything. • Lower bound cut-off means that score below certain value hinders acceptance into higher ranked schools. • Score below 550 ~ acceptance very unlikely. 520
90

100red line =

PGRE e -101030

400 500 600 700 800 900 1000 1100

Highest ra

Physics GRE

Recent RPI Classes - Grad Schools

851

Illinois, Oxford, RPI

751

Chicago, Oxford, Columbia, UCSB, Illinois, RPI

651

Brook, UC Irvine, RPI

601 NYU

Dartmouth

Brandeis

550

None (solid grades, solid

research, great letters)RPI, [Harvard, Stanford] (Applied Physics); [Harvard, Chicago, Cornell] (biophysics), Penn

State (materials), [Oregon, CMU, MIT] (comp sci),

[UCLA, Scripps, U Washington] (geophysics), [Harvard, Cornell, UCLA, UCSD, UCSB, Illinois,

CMU] (ECE), [Purdue, GATech, Maryland] (Aero),

JHU (education), [Columbia, MIT, Wisconsin] (Nucl

Eng).

406080100

ked program admission

100=no acceptance

Best graduate program ranking vs GPA

(RPI Physics students - all grad program fields)

Black=Physics

Red=non-Physics

020

2.5 2.7 2.9 3.1 3.3 3.5 3.7 3.9

Best ran

Rensselaer GPA

• Scatter means that GPA is a necessary but not sufficient condition for acceptance to higher ranked schools. • No acceptance anywhere for GPA below 3.1 • Top 10 programs usually require 3.6+ (with other strengths).

Physics GRE - GPA correlation

(RPI undergrads only)

333.43.53.63.73.83.94

GPA • High GPA does not automatically lead to high PGRE. • The lower the GPA, the lower the best PGRE performance.

33.13.2

3 3

400 500 600 700 800 900 1000

Physics GRE

The Physics GRE Test

When should you take the

Physics GRE?

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